Friday, August 30, 2013

Ties and Suspenders ~~ A "Sepia Saturday" Post


I've always loved the fact that people used to dress so formally, as opposed to now, when they'll walk into a grocery store wearing pajamas!

This week's Sepia Saturday prompt photo shows men wearing ties and suspenders. That was an easy one to play with, for me.

The following is a photo of most of my mom's family members, taken in (I assume) the 1940s. My mom and dad are noticeably absent, and I assume my Uncle Johnny was not yet married because his wife, my Aunt Wanda, isn't in the shot.


From left to right, top to bottom, the personnel are: First row, my Aunt Esther,
wife of my mom's brother Billy; my aunt Josie, my mom's older sister;
Josie's husband Joe. Dominick, second husband of my grandmother (who was
also named Josephine). Second row, my grandmother Josephine; my Uncle Eddie's wife
Olga (?); my mom's brother Johnny; my mom's brother Eddie; and mom's brother Billy!
Seated on the floor at left is Josie & Joe's daughter, my cousin Janice. My Uncle Albert
was the camera bug in the family, and he's absent from this shot (but in
the next one), so I assume he took this photo.

"The Hartman Boys," as I call 'em! Billy, Johnny, Eddie, and Albert. My maternal uncles,
obviously taken on the same day or evening as the previous photo!

I don't know whose idea it was that the four Hartman brothers all put their arms around each other, but you can tell from the photo that none of them were particularly comfortable. Ours was never a "huggy" family, and this photo of the Hartman boys clearly shows this. But I love the photo more since it illustrates that very fact.

Thanks for your time!

51 comments:

  1. I read your title in a hurry and thought it said tires and suspenders. :)

    Pajamas in the grocery store is a pet peeve of mine.

    I like the suspenders, and ties looks so dapper. :)

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  2. I think I like your title better.

    Bill Maher once said that Americans won't be happy until they can go out in public wearing nothing but a diaper!

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  3. Great ties and suspenders to boot! Nice entry, but that's sad you can't find any more photos of your family all together. I guess you'll just have to make collages!

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    1. It seems like someone in the family was always missing. In this case, my mother and father.

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  4. What a prize -- that shot of the uncles! I miss guys in ties, I really do!

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  5. The title was enough to make my eyes boggle - until I took a second look at the picture...
    To me suspenders keep ladies stocking up, while mens trews need braces. Hehehe!

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    1. Try comparing the British and American term "knickers."

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  6. You'd love my son. If we let him he wears a tie to school and tucks his shirt in. He is 9.

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    1. Ahhh, good taste knows no age restriction!

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  7. I think Billy looks particularly perturbed in that last photo.

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  8. I love it that the four brothers look uncomfortable with their arms around each other. My sisters and I are not touchy-feely. I do not go out in my jammies. Today I'm wearing jeans, which is very casual for me. Most days I wear a dress or skirt and lots of jewelry. I clean the house dressed that way. I am today's version of June Cleaver (she didn't use the kind of language that comes out of my mouth).

    Love,
    Janie

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    1. I definitely think it's a generational thing.

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  9. Oh yes, those hugging men were just doing it probably for a woman photographer...and most of the men in my family would have felt the same way those days

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    1. Yep, both sides of my family were the same way.

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  10. LOL they don't look very comfortable in that last one.

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  11. I'm thinking you look like your uncle Billy...especially in the eyes! :)

    I love men dressed up like this! But I see it every day...the mister has to wear a suit and tie to work. ha.

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    1. Uncle Billy? Really? You're the first person to ever say that.

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  12. That second photo is hilarious!! Great post. Thanks.

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  13. that i9s really nice pictures! Make me remember my dada with tie and all his friends of course:) and My Uncle Maurice used all his life suspenders and he always look nice, I think maybe I always saw him with them:)
    amazing shots!

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    1. Interesting how styles have loosened up...

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  14. I so agree, the pics of my parents are so elegant compared to the way we dress nowadays. Not complaining, I like wearing comfortable ( but not pajamas in public).

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    1. No, I would definitely draw the line at pajamas!

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  15. Did the men sing ? The piano is open ready with music propped up. Perhaps they're just getting reading to break into a barbershop quartet. And I wish we still had formal dressing for some occasions. Sometimes as I walk down the street or sit in a cafe I think about how drab we all look.

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    1. None of my uncles sang, to my knowledge. However, ours was a very musical family -- my mom and my Aunt Josie both played piano and organ -- and at least three of my uncles were in a band together. Eddie played drums, and Billy played either trumpet or trombone (I can't recall which).

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  16. I know what you mean about not being a huggy family. back in those days most families weren't. The touchy, huggy, kissing revolution seems to have taken place sometime during our lives, crept up on us without notice. It's as if both dress standards and physical contact have become more casual over the years, not that I am saying that is necessarily a bad thing.

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    1. I think the "huggy, kissing revolution" you speak of was a product of the 1960s. I think it all started with our President Kennedy's refusal to wear hats, haha.

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  17. its funny we have a teacher at school that wears bow ties and suspenders...he is like maybe 30...its like a flashback every time i see him...he has his own style and rocks it....

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  18. The hugging would have looked more natural if they had moved closer. The empty space in the middle of the last photo looks strange like someone or thing is missing.

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    1. I think the only "something" that was missing was something emotionally based, but that's my own opinion.

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  19. Loved the second photo. Maybe the photo was taken before the men were quite 'ready'. Or maybe, as I read in another Sepian's blog this morning, the photographer just needed to say something outrageous.

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    1. Wonder how my uncles would have reacted to that.

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  20. Really? Walk into a grocery store in pyjamas?

    I love that this post has really brought out some differences between countries - braces/suspenders and now pajamas/pyjamas)

    When we were in America in 2006 my children filled a whole page with differences for their school project.

    I agree that the photo is better because they don't look comfortable.

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    1. Yes, some people in this country will really wear pajamas/pyjamas to the grocery store.

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  21. Well done on scoring both for ties and suspenders! I agree with Postcardy, a bit of encouragement on the photographer's part to cuddle up may have produced an altogether different feel to the picture.

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  22. A lovely post, and yes the photographer could have drawn them closer together, but I think it leaves so much more to the imagination of what were they thinking! Very funny!

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  23. Yet the brothers do their very best to show their unity, with very serious faces.

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  24. The second photo is funny. My husband is one of five brothers and I think their way of not being huggy in photos is to make funny faces or something like that - one of their favourites is the 'see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil' scenario that they extend to eg smell no evil,....

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  25. I agree -- I can't understand the mindset of people who think it's ok to go into a store while still in their pajamas. And to the complimentary breakfast at a hotel -- really? PJs, slippers, and bedhead? Please, people are trying to eat!

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